CHINESE VERSION
「WHY RADIO？」是 HKCR 由主持人間訪談系列，旨在探索創作人間於 2021 的年頭，究竟為何堅持做電台節目的源由和意義。
訪問：Gussieft1
本地有甚麼場景或者圈子對你，尤其於音樂和打碟的方面有所啟發？
雖然我住在丹麥，但是由於我並不是本地人，所以很難說我特別受當地的場景所影響。
其實我只是在新冠疫情後才開始策劃和分享我以前還在家鄉印尼住的時候就喜愛的音樂。現在我已經在歐洲住了滿10年，我一直都沒有脫離音樂，不過我也沒有將我的愛好投入於當地的場景裡。
我並不視自已為一位「做」音樂的人，因為我也沒有創造甚麼作品，我只有聆聽和分享東西，我有去做一些混音，但我也不想稱呼自已為一位DJ，你明白我的意思嗎？
是的，我完全明白你的意思。
我純粹喜歡分享音樂而已，這是因為疫情後我開始真有時間去做混音和其他事情。以前的我通常只會為朋友的派對做歌單之類的，那是比較輕鬆沒太大顧慮。但自疫情後我開始很長時間待在家中，所以自自然然就開始了這件事，不過我仍不會說是當地的場景影響了我，因為即使到現在，我關注的大多是東南亞的音樂，而我之前反而是沒太多留意的。
原來如此，我也不會視自己為一位DJ 所以我自己大致也會這樣形容。我也不太受當地的場景的影響。
是的，當然丹麥本身也充滿了優秀的東西，不過當我初到貴境，我還未太了解當地場景疾情就發生了，而且我才剛剛移居到這裡。所以我猜我仍然很大程度上與東亞及東南亞的音樂有更大關聯，甚至在疾情期間更加踴躍多去發掘這些音樂，儘管也不至於我會排除其他音樂，但我於東南亞地區中找到更多我感興趣的音樂，尤其因為我來自印尼，在我開始做「DJ」後我變得更加有動機去探索自己國家的東西。
你知道我們是位於香港，而你則在歐洲，請問你與我們的地區會不會剛好有任何關連嗎？
我自己從未到過香港，但我有很多印尼的朋友到過，甚至他們當中認識當地的場境（應該本身是音樂人吧）。我聽說過許多關於香港的好東西，特別是它非常的繁華。我猜因為我位於歐洲，我從主流媒體吸收的資訊都是其他人對它的觀感，而且幾乎是關於政治的。我自已沒有對這方面沒有很資深的見解，所以我也沒有與其他人討論這些，我覺得在北歐居住，於主流層面上，很多當地人都把香港或中國與政治和社會動盪概括地連結一起。這是我對當地人對香港的理解，不過我作為一位亞洲人，你知道一般來說有很多事情，歐洲人其實以為自己懂卻其實甚麼都不懂。對不起，我似乎忘記了你的問題了（笑）。
（笑）
哈哈對，我只是住這裡，我不能代表歐洲人說他們對香港的想法，即使我知道這裡的傳媒說很多關於香港政治，但很少關注文化或音樂等的東西。
哈，在美國也是這樣。
是的，當其他人問到『你對這的想法是甚麼？』的時候，他們總是想你去選擇幫某一方，因為我從未去過香港也不會當地的語言，我會對這些問題感到尷尬。
據稱你對多個音樂種類都在行，哪你懟覺得這個音樂面向有甚麼好處嗎？而你覺得又有甚麼壞處呢（雖然我自己覺得沒有但也想問一下）。
我自己不喜歡只聽某一音種，我不屬於一名 House 音樂的「Selector」，如果整天只聽 House 太悶了。我覺得好處是你會容許自己發掘更多，而且避免將你自己被封閉於其他的音樂種類之外。
我有時甚至覺得「音樂種類」是挺精英主義的。有人可能會想：『我的天噢，你竟然聽 K-POP ？！』但我覺得如果你有去聆聽不同的音樂種類，譬如即使你喜歡某一首曲，你就會是單純地欣賞它，你不必因為「噢我喜歡它因為它是屬於甚麼音種」的理由而欺騙自己。有時候，我也會想聽一首好聽的流行樂曲或 emo 樂曲之類的，即使今時今日我都不太聽 emo 了。我從不顧慮自己是否認同自己為一名藝術家或DJ ，我分享音樂的原因更多就是我覺得很好玩而且，也籍此希望其他人聽了我的 Mix 也會覺得感興趣，你可能聽了裡面一首曲而覺得『噢這首歌不錯，這是甚麼歌？』，你不會去故意聯想這是屬於甚麼音種，再者我放的mix 甚麼音種都有。
當然，我也有我的音樂種類喜好，但這視乎我的心情和我當時喜歡的音樂。我個人來說，我不會傾向在我的電台節目只想著做同一個音樂種類的mix，我喜歡當是一個故事或一個發展的勢頭順著來。不過這是很個人的，我不會說其他的方法不好，但當你使用了多個音種時這是它的優勢，你可以以氛圍開始然後以 Hyperpop 結尾，對我來說這個手法會比較好玩。
我有時甚至覺得「音樂種類」是挺精英主義的。有人可能會想：『我的天噢，你竟然聽 K-POP ？！』但我覺得如果你有去聆聽不同的音樂種類，譬如即使你喜歡某一首曲，你就會是單純地欣賞它，你不必因為「噢我喜歡它因為它是屬於甚麼音種」的理由而欺騙自己。
對，我明白，我也會使用很多不同的音樂種類。你也是 HKCR 常駐節目的一員？我急不及待想聽你的節目呵！
我想講的是我不喜歡對所有事情太過「認真」，但真的我做這些的原因就是為了好玩，但我清楚能夠休閒地做這個事情是因為我比其他人有優勢，也因為我本身不是一個職業的 DJ/ 音樂人所以也沒有太認真地看待它，我幹這件事是為了發掘更多新或舊的音樂，以及享受分享和策展的樂趣。
重溫 Ricebaby 於HKCR 的節目的最新集數。
ENGLISH VERSION
‘‘Why Radio?” is an interview series hosted by our residents, each of them contains conversations of the residents to explore the meaning of making radio shows in the year of 2021.
Interviewed by Gussief
What are some local scenes or circles that inspire you, did it play a role in getting you into music and DJing and stuff?
I live in Denmark but I’m not from here originally so I wouldn’t say I’m very influenced by the local scene here, but I started really getting into it in the beginning of covid. I mean I always liked just curating stuff and sharing music before back when I was still living in Indonesia where I’m from originally. I’ve lived in Europe now for 10 years, and I’ve always had an affinity to music, but I wasn’t really doing it in that sense. I like to share stuff, I don’t see myself as a person who “does” music, because I don’t “do” music you know, I just like to listen to it and share stuff, I started mixing a little bit but I wouldn’t call myself a DJ, you know what I mean?
Yeah I know exactly what you mean
Yeah, I just like sharing music, and I think it was because of the beginning of covid, that I started to just have time to actually start getting into making mixes and all that stuff, you know whereas before I’d be making playlists for a friend’s party or something liek this, so it was more chill, but because of covid being at home a lot, that kind of started it, but I wouldn’t say I’m specifically influenced by a local scene, because also most of the stuff I’m looking into these days, and since I started getting into it, is a lot of south-east and east asian music, which I wasn’t actually digging so much into before.
That makes a lot of sense, I wouldn’t consider myself like a DJ and I’d probably say the same thing, I’m not really inspired by the local scene round here really either
Yeah, I mean I think there’s a lot of good stuff here as well [Denmark] but when I moved here, I didn’t really know much about the local scene anyways and then covid happened, I moved here not too long before Covid happened, so I guess I was away more, and I always had more affinity to East and South East Asian music and I started digging it after Covid. Most of the stuff I play and look into is focused on south-east and east asian based artists. Not to say I’m excluding other stuff, but I guess I’m finding more stuff that I’m into from SE Asia, and coming from Indonesia, it’s given me more motivation to look into stuff from my own country which I didn’t used to before I got into so-called DJing or whatever.
So as you know we’re based in HK, you’re based in Europe, so do you have any connection to the region?
I’ve never been to HK personally but I’ve got lots of Indonesian friends who have been, and also I’ve got a lot of Inidonesian musician firends who know the scene more (I guess like, really musicians haha). And I’ve only heard good things about what’s happening there, that Hong Kong’s really vibrant and I guess living in Europe, most of the things I see or hear on mainstream media are people’s perception of, you know it always has to do with politics I guess. I’m not an expert on that stuff so I don’t really get into it with people, and it’s Europe, and I live in Northern Europe so it’s even more like, I think living here in general in Northern Europe, a lot of people look at Hong Kong or China as this like, they associate it a lot with politics and riots, all this kind of stuff, like on a mainstream level. THat’s what I know from people’s perceptions, but I don’t really get into it with people, since you know because I’m Asian myself, you know sometimes Europeans have these things that they think they know but they don’t really know, in a more general level I guess. What was the question? What people think of Hong Kong?
*Laughter*
Haha yeah, I mean, I myself, I mean I live here, but I wouldn’t say I can represent what Europeans think of Hong Kong, but I know there is a lot of stuff in the media, but it’s more about politics and less about culture or music or stuff like this
Ha, yeah definitely in America it’s about politics too.
Yeah and people are always like asking your opinion like “what do you think of this?” or “what do you think..” you know, people are always kinda wanting you to choose a side or something, and it’s quite awkward because I’ve never been to Hong Kong and I don’t speak the language or anything. So if someone here in Denmark tends to focus on those big questions more, rather than other things, but it’s usually politics yeah.
So you’re multi-genre, so what’s your perspective on the pros of being multi-genral and do you think there are any cons at all (I don’t think there are but).
If there are any cons at all?
No! The pros! More focusing on the pros, if there are any cons, mention them as well, pros and cons yknow!
Personally like I don’t only listen to one genre because I don’t feel like it, and I’m not like a house selector or DJ or anything, because just listening to house all day is boring! I think the pros are you get to discover more, and you don’t shut yourself off from other genres. I sometimes think that genres can be quite elitist. Sometimes someone could think “oh my God, you listen to K-pop?! How could you?” But I think with multi-genre, if you like a track, you just like a track, it doesn’t have to be like “Oh I can’t like this track because it’s this or this genre”, and you can’t lie to yourself, there are some days where you want to listen to a good pop song or an emo song or whatever, I mean, not that I listen to a lot of emo these days I think, but yeah, I just think that for me, since I don’t consider myself a musician or a real DJ or whatever, it’s more that I share music and do this because it’s fun, and also hope that people who listen to the mixes or the radio show that I do, you might hear a song and think “oh this song is nice, what is this song?”. And it’s not about keeping a certain genre, there aren’t genres I won’t do. THere’s definitely types of music I prefer for sure, but it also depends on my mood or what I feel like listening to at that moment. For me personally if I make a mix, I tend to not make a mix that is just a single genre. Personally I prefer to go about it, more like there’s a story or a progression on my radio show. But I think that’s also personal. I’m not saying other ways are unlikeable as well, but I think that’s just the pros of doing multiple genres, you could start with ambient and end with hyperpop, so I think that’s more fun for me anyway.s
I sometimes think that genres can be quite elitist. Sometimes someone could think “oh my God, you listen to K-pop?! How could you?” But I think with multi-genre, if you like a track, you just like a track, it doesn’t have to be like “Oh I can’t like this track because it’s this or this genre”, and you can’t lie to yourself
Yeah I understand I use a lot of genres as well. So you’re a resident on HKCR? I can’t wait to tune in!
I think my point is that I don’t take all this stuff seriously, quote unquote, but really I do it because it’s just fun, I kinda of do it just for the joy, but I also know that I have the privilege to do it for leisure, but maybe it is because I don’t have a career as a DJ / musician so I don’t atke myself too seriously in that sense, I do it because I like discovering artists or new music or old music, and I just do it for the fun of sharing and curating